Welcome Anonymous !


 

Battletech Universe

Battletech Design Bureau

[Mech] Rifleman RFL-3LL, -8LL, -8LL2 & -8LL (C)

Submit and discuss your custom designed 'Mechs, aerospace,vehicles, protos, battlearmor, weapons, etc.

Moderators: Ravion Hawk, AVA MANGO TWO

[Mech] Rifleman RFL-3LL, -8LL, -8LL2 & -8LL (C)

Postby GRUD » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:23 pm

Ok, I FULLY ADMIT to STEALING the idea for these designs from Dave Fanjoy. :lol: I was looking over his "Rifleman" listings, and read: "I like a variant with 4 large lasers, and lots of heat sinks and armor.", which got me curious. I searched through HMPro, and couldn't find such a beastie, so I did some tinkering and made one of my own. Well, then I had to make an "Upgraded" version, of course. :wink: Both of mine drop the medium lasers, add either a little (-3LL) or a LOT (-8LL) of armor, plus more heat sinks. While the -8LL keeps the standard large lasers, it also ADDS a Targeting Computer! :twisted: It also drops the jump jets, and uses a standard chassis rather than Endo Steel. Of course, it also uses DHS so it doesn't have NEARLY the heat Issues as it's "Older Brother". I stayed with the standard LLs for two reasons, though my "In Universe" reason is just as reasonable, I think. If I'd used the ERLLs (which I REALLY wanted to do!), it would've been overheating like CRAZY. Using Inner Sphere Tech, there's simply no way to give it enough DHS and still improve the armor, PLUS add a TC. If I'd gone with LPLs, I would've been overheating (though not NEARLY as bad), with slightly more damage, and a little easier "To Hit", but I'd be losing range. My "In Universe" reason is, there's all these old standard large lasers lying around, let's use them! :lol: Oddly enough, it costs 657600 C Bills MORE than the -8D. :shock: I guess that TC REALLY jacks the price up huh? :lol:

((For anyone unfamiliar with HMPro, it calculates "Combat Heat" as if you fired everything Max Rate {Like Ultra ACs and RACs}, AND moved your Max Rate {whether running or full jump}.))


Code: Select all
Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-3LL
Mass:          60 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  99 pts Standard               0      6.00
Engine:        240 Fusion                    6     11.50
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     17 Single                    8      7.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:  152 pts Standard              0      9.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9
   Center Torso:             20         22
   Center Torso (Rear):                  7
   L/R Side Torso:           14      16/16
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5
   L/R Arm:                  10      18/18
   L/R Leg:                  14      18/18

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 Large Lasers           RA     16           4     10.00
2 Large Lasers           LA     16           4     10.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         32          43     60.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          35       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        4,699,200 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,220 (old BV = 926)
Cost per BV2:      3,851.8
Weapon Value:      929 / 929 (Ratio = .76 / .76)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 17;  MRDmg = 9;  LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 4/5
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 2
                   Class: MH;  Point Value: 12

Combat Heat: 34 (17 Heat Available)




Code: Select all
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-8LL
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3067
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          60 tons
Chassis:       Kallon XV Endo Steel Composite
Power Plant:   240 Hermes XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Kallon Royalstar Standard
Armament:     
  4 Magna Mk III Large Lasers
Manufacturer:  Kallon Industries
  Location:    Talon / FC (KI)
Communications System:  Garret T-11A
Targeting & Tracking System:  Garret D2J(I)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-8LL
Mass:          60 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  99 pts Composite              0      3.00
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                12      6.00
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     16 Double [32]              21      6.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 3 RT, 1 CT)
Compact Gyro:                                2      4.50
Cockpit, Life Supt.:                         5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:  200 pts Standard              0     12.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             20         29     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 10     
   L/R Side Torso:           14      21/21     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              7/7     
   L/R Arm:                  10      20/20     
   L/R Leg:                  14      28/28     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 Large Lasers           RA     16           4     10.00
2 Large Lasers           LA     16           4     10.00
1 Targeting Computer     LT                  5      5.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         32          65     60.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          13       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,121,600 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,437 (old BV = 1,226)
Cost per BV2:      7,739.46
Weapon Value:      2,113 / 2,113 (Ratio = 1.47 / 1.47)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 30;  MRDmg = 22;  LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 5/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 5/4/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MH;  Point Value: 14

Combat Heat: 34 (32 Heat Available)




Ok, so I toyed around a little more and made one using ERLLs, but I had to drop the TC in order to add more DHS, and it still overheats more than I'd like. :P I was able to add an Angel ECM though. I think I'll go the "Clan" route next! :twisted:


Code: Select all
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-8LL2
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3067
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          60 tons
Chassis:       Kallon XV Endo Steel Composite
Power Plant:   240 Hermes XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Kallon Royalstar Standard
Armament:     
  4 Maxell ER Large Lasers
  1 Angel ECM Suite
Manufacturer:  Kallon Industries
  Location:    Talon / FC (KI)
Communications System:  Garret T-11A
Targeting & Tracking System:  Garret D2J(I)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-8LL2
Mass:          60 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  99 pts Composite              0      3.00
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                12      6.00
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     20 Double [40]              33     10.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 CT)
Compact Gyro:                                2      4.50
Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:          4      2.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:  200 pts Standard              0     12.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             20         29     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 10     
   L/R Side Torso:           14      21/21     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              7/7     
   L/R Arm:                  10      20/20     
   L/R Leg:                  14      28/28     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 ER Large Lasers        RA     24           4     10.00
2 ER Large Lasers        LA     24           4     10.00
1 Angel ECM Suite        HD      0           2      2.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         48          73     60.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           5       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        12,880,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,518 (old BV = 1,248)
Cost per BV2:      8,484.85
Weapon Value:      1,871 / 1,871 (Ratio = 1.23 / 1.23)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 25;  MRDmg = 19;  LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 5/2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/3,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MH;  Point Value: 15
                   Specials: ecm

Combat Heat: 50 (40 Heat Available)



Now, the Clan version! :twisted: It still overheats, though not nearly as bad AND it keeps the TC!! :twisted:


Code: Select all
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-8LL (C)
Tech:          Clan / 3067
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          60 tons
Chassis:       Kallon XV Endo Steel Composite
Power Plant:   240 Hermes XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Kallon Royalstar Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  4 Magna Mk III ER Large Lasers
Manufacturer:  Kallon Industries
  Location:    Talon / FC (KI)
Communications System:  Garret T-11A
Targeting & Tracking System:  Garret D2J(I)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type/Model:    Rifleman RFL-8LL (C)
Mass:          60 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  99 pts Composite              0      3.00
Engine:        240 XL Fusion                10      6.00
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     23 Double [46]              28     13.00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 5 RT, 2 CT, 1 LL)
Compact Gyro:                                2      4.50
Cockpit, Life Supt.:                         5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:  200 pts Ferro-Fibrous         7     10.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RL)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:             20         29     
   Center Torso (Rear):                 10     
   L/R Side Torso:           14      21/21     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              7/7     
   L/R Arm:                  10      20/20     
   L/R Leg:                  14      28/28     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 ER Large Lasers        RA     24           2      8.00
2 ER Large Lasers        LA     24           2      8.00
1 Targeting Computer     LT                  4      4.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         48          72     60.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           6       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        11,948,800 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    2,159 (old BV = 1,875)
Cost per BV2:      5,534.41
Weapon Value:      3,595 / 3,595 (Ratio = 1.67 / 1.67)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 38;  MRDmg = 33;  LRDmg = 24
BattleForce2:      MP: 4,  Armor/Structure: 5/4
                   Damage PB/M/L: 6/4/4,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MH;  Point Value: 22

Combat Heat: 50 (46 Heat Available)
To me, Repros are 100% Wrong, and there's NO room for me to give ground on this subject. I'm not just an Immovable Object on this, I'm THE Immovable Object.
"Remember. No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai - PhD, Rocket Scientist, Musician.
Mini Mule Avatar by Steve Ronin!

Image
"THE PAPER CUT MASTER"
GRUD
Gray Death Legion
Gray Death Legion
Chief Warrant Officer
Chief Warrant Officer
 
Posts: 868
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:53 am
Location: SE Missouri

Re: [Mech] Rifleman RFL-3LL, -8LL, -8LL2 & -8LL (C)

Postby Steve Ronin » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:16 pm

So I'm retreating to my fantasy world...

how about a 'Crazy Liao' version from 3025... the -3L

Code: Select all
Rifleman RFL-3L

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-A
Production Year: 2770
Cost: 4,686,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,172

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    4 MagnaMk. III Large Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                6.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      11.50
    Walking MP: 4
    Running MP: 6
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             18                        8.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 136                  8.50

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           20       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     14           16       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  6         
                                             L/R Arm     10           13       
                                             L/R Leg     14           15       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Laser                                  RT        8         2         5.00
Large Laser                                  LT        8         2         5.00
Large Laser                                  RA        8         2         5.00
Large Laser                                  LA        8         2         5.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 34

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 12
4          2       2       0       0      3     2   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Image

REPLY to RONIN'S RAMBLINGS HERE
Steve Ronin
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Northwind Highlanders
Northwind Highlanders
General
General
Knight
Knight
 
Posts: 5202
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:40 pm
Location: Virginia


Return to Battletech Design Bureau

cron

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Login